tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3031950757212286354.post5180975482411213270..comments2023-08-06T05:23:18.212-07:00Comments on It Might Be Dangerous... You Go First: Charlie Haeger and Scott PattersonPaul DePodestahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02560758061177027738noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3031950757212286354.post-22067014723402842292008-09-14T14:40:00.000-07:002008-09-14T14:40:00.000-07:00Saw Patterson pitch against the Giants and he has ...Saw Patterson pitch against the Giants and he has quite a funky throwing motion. Doesn't seem to use much of his lower body and throws really over the top. Quite unusual, but he was effective, seems like a potential solid pickupWazzel Sport's Humorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16563529746900314345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3031950757212286354.post-37744340678280142182008-09-14T07:51:00.000-07:002008-09-14T07:51:00.000-07:00Hi, I'm new to your site, but I have a question ab...Hi, I'm new to your site, but I have a question about Patterson. At what age do you stop really looking at minor leaguers? Patterson is 29 (and presumably 30 next season) and hasn't made it to the majors yet. Is it a good idea to really go after someone like that, or is it that he's a good pickup because A)he's a reliever who won't pitch much, B) it's still a low-risk acquisition, and C) he's theoretically near his "prime"?tHeMARksMiThhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16445834941960575715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3031950757212286354.post-31887613252047502562008-09-13T23:14:00.000-07:002008-09-13T23:14:00.000-07:00I have seats on the bullpen in left field and just...I have seats on the bullpen in left field and just got home from the game where both these guys pitched. Patterson definitely has a different delivery, way over the top and a sharp slant on his ball. He looked good in warmup and on the mound.<BR/>Haeger was all over the place with the knuckler in warm up and was not effective in the game. He has had a long layoff and that might be a factor. Luke Carlin caught him in the bullpen and had a tough time catching the knuckler. He mixes in an 83-85 mile/hr fastball that looks pretty straight to me and needs his knuckler for strikes to be effective. He will be interesting to watch and see how it goes.bullpenershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00724280192893674063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3031950757212286354.post-38878416459365013082008-09-13T11:15:00.000-07:002008-09-13T11:15:00.000-07:00Alex,Agreed. Every year teams pay millions for mid...Alex,<BR/><BR/>Agreed. Every year teams pay millions for middle-relievers who bust just as often as AAA prospects. Building a reliable bullpen out of league castoffs is one of the easiest ways for a team to save money or reallocate it for bigger free agent signings. If you have one above average talent as a pitcher, chances are a manager can find situations in which you can succeed. Jeff at lookoutlanding has written on this topic repeatedly--e.g. http://www.lookoutlanding.co/2008/8/27/602105/samplingthedelicious-fruUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12884241897197331408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3031950757212286354.post-90658064006690696492008-09-12T16:13:00.000-07:002008-09-12T16:13:00.000-07:00Paul,Darnell had a less than spectacular defensive...Paul,<BR/><BR/>Darnell had a less than spectacular defensive game for the storm in game 5. Are you guys going to keep him at 3rd base or try to move him somewhere else?sdsuaztec4https://www.blogger.com/profile/09390428921911394261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3031950757212286354.post-25215115545019678572008-09-12T13:08:00.000-07:002008-09-12T13:08:00.000-07:00Paul,The Haeger pickup plays perfectly into the "p...Paul,<BR/><BR/>The Haeger pickup plays perfectly into the "park effects". It's easy to get carried away with it but sometimes, it just fits.<BR/><BR/>Good move,<BR/>JasonJason @ IIATMShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11675184282951841175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3031950757212286354.post-82174652941189027472008-09-12T11:43:00.000-07:002008-09-12T11:43:00.000-07:00Two nice pickups, especially Patterson. It always ...Two nice pickups, especially Patterson. It always amazes me that with so many Horrible relievers on 25 man rosters teams don't scour the minors more often for veterans who are killing and just need a chance on the big league level. So many of these guys have a bad run in their 5-10 inning cup of coffee that they forever get cast off the rest of their career even with dominance in AAA. <BR/><BR/>Last year I felt the Giants had such a guy in Scott Atchinson, who was certainly nothing amazing, but had a good year in the minors and was solid in a call up. Yet next year the team let him go in lieu of more proven guys like Tyler Walker. I have a theory that a team could build a near league average bulpen using NOTHING but minor league relievers aged 27+ (essentially the age where most are left off 40 man if they can't crack bigs or when they are viewed as too old for AAA, etc.). Perhaps I am generalizing but for the most part Id guess any 27 year old in AAA NOT rehabbing is probably not too hard to acquire<BR/><BR/> Just for fun here is the pen that a team could have if they just filled it with seemingly east to acquire 27+ year old in the minors. <BR/><BR/>1. Mike Adams (thebbiggest stretch because injuries/rehab were a factor, but nonetheless)<BR/>2. Rocky Cherry ( on name alone!)<BR/>3. Chris Smith - Bos/Paw<BR/>4. Greg Aquino<BR/>5. Falkenborg <BR/>6.Patterson (I'm on my iPod so I can't search too much hence 3 pads examples)<BR/>7. Brandon Knight/Jason childers<BR/><BR/>This isn't even that a great a list for an example, but this pen would be the cheapest I'm baseball and if you already had good pieces in place, just take the top 4-5. I guarantee that this pen as is would be better than some <BR/>2. <BR/>2.Wazzel Sport's Humorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16563529746900314345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3031950757212286354.post-64176210654495967352008-09-11T18:08:00.000-07:002008-09-11T18:08:00.000-07:00I've followed Patterson pretty closely since he jo...I've followed Patterson pretty closely since he joined the Yankee organization, and I think that you've made a great pickup.<BR/><BR/>I saw him pitch in person in Durham (I always pick seats next to the Yankee bullpen), and you're right about his delivery; it's funky and looks a little awkward, but it's startling enough to throw hitters off a bit, regardless of what side of the plate they're on.<BR/><BR/>As a Yankee fan, I would've liked to see him get a genuine shot with the big club, but I think he has a great chance to succeed in Petco given that he's a somewhat extreme flyball pitcher.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05095809738860544235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3031950757212286354.post-45107888017666607542008-09-11T17:17:00.000-07:002008-09-11T17:17:00.000-07:00Schlom,That's a good question. He'll probably be ...Schlom,<BR/><BR/>That's a good question. He'll probably be reporting tomorrow, but he hasn't pitched since Sept 1 (though it was a complete game). We'll have to see how things shake out, but we certainly expect him to pitch during this month.Paul DePodestahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02560758061177027738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3031950757212286354.post-6719383791380085252008-09-11T16:53:00.000-07:002008-09-11T16:53:00.000-07:00Will Haeger get a start over the next three weeks?...Will Haeger get a start over the next three weeks?Schlomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17897486624873003428noreply@blogger.com